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Following the Sun 𖤓˚࿔𓂃 ོ⋆ Permacomputing does not happen in isolation. It brews through local collectives, shared infrastructures, and informal exchanges between people gathered around the idea of responsible computing. For this reason, we are organising a two-day virtual gathering to exchange eideas and share inspiration between the various permacomputing groups. Following the Sun brings together permacomputing hubs for a two-day hybrid gathering on the 11. and 12. July 2026 (Saturday and Sunday), unfolding across time zones and local contexts. As the sun travels across regions, each hub meets in its own place and connects through a shared and independently-hosted communication system.
The meeting is open to all interested parties, but please note that this is not a virtual festival of lectures on permacomputing topics. Instead, the goal is to have a moment of hybrid exchange between permacomputing communities that are already active and have experiences to share and learn from, while reflecting together on developing organisational strategies across geographies and time zones. The programme consists of a series of moderated discussion slots. Each slot focuses on a specific topic and is collectively shaped by the participants present.
The programme unfolds as a slow collective fermentation. It invites participants to sha
re conditions, tools, and processes: what is available, what is fragile, what is being learned and how to stay connected beyond the event. Following the Sun is not a centralised festival, but a distributed moment of meeting like a mycelial network that reconnects and continues to grow, exchanging ideas and sharing practices of careful relationships with computation.
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Program DAY 1 [Time in CEST]
12:00-12:15 - Intro / Warm up
12:15-12:45 - Community building (location, comms)
12:45-13:15 - Theory vs Everyday permacomputing
13:15-13:45 - Break (~fermentation~)
13:45-14:15 - Show us Your Latest Perma Experiment
14:15 - ... - Live Italo-Disco DJ Crunk (Open End)
We are slightly behind schedule, working on it :) We are liiiiiiveeeeee!!!!
Varia is introduced by strt and ugrnm introduces the history of this event and how we went from pmc wiki edit-a-thon in Varia years ago to the first international meetup in Den Haag last year and now this very experimental and extremely DIY/DIWO pmc hub meetup to exchange.
Ola introduces the idea behind this event. Meeting each other, getting to hear what other hubs are up to and are working on!
Anna will lead the first session. She introduces the moderation team for the meetings. Anna, Brendan and Ola will take care of this. She is based in The Hague and works in a permaculture community garden. There are different themes for each timeslot. Each timeslot different groups are invited to join the conversation.
First conversation is about community building with Rotterdam and Barcelona. Anna wants to start of with a question for both groups. One of the first challenges of starting a group is finding a place to meet. Not just physically, broadest sense. Question is, how important is having a physical space to meet for a group?
Can you share your experiences?
Barcelona tests audio :) Barcelona is a hub th
"Somewhere in the distance, a dog barked..." hahaha
They have low-tech magazine nearby🤩, permaculture garden as well, really active scene of ppl doing things adjacent to pmc.
AKASHA hub Barcelona (independent civic infrastructure for social innovation promoted by citizens) started 9 years ago, and permacomputing BCN community started 6 months ago. Still trying to work out what they want to do. 30 ppl at first meeting, but struggled to keep up in terms of infra. Signal group. Right now there is 7 ppl meeting every week on Wednesdays. Tried to get a reading group going. Repurposing an old playstation as webserver. Small workshops on alternative protocols such as Gemini.
Plan is to run some workshops.
Also discuss and debate.
Varia waves (decentral1se). Our group, 14 ppl =- a bunch of ppl with afinity with pmc principles. Different arrival routes. Some of us read the blogpost of viznut in 2020, some went to a workshop and discovered it, ... We had a discussion about starting a group, everyone was already doing adjacent things in little groups. There was always a question of 'should we put a name on it', and now we did.
Anna repeats the question, how did ppl find the group?
Luke explains the situation in NL is a bit complicated. Aymeric is here who started the wiki, Marloes is here who wrote about pmc. Not living in R'dam but all friends. Multiple ppl, small country, but also not, we don't see each other that often.
Some ppl from the Hague came to us. And others but it is becoming more structured. For us the space, Varia, is always meant, it was started by students (xpub at pzi institute) to have a place after graduation to work on projects with friends. Is this making sense? Space was important as a meeting place :)
Bcn some ppl found us, there was this conference on tech sovereignty (SOBTECH). Lots of different communities, an existing network of related groups. It's a bit of a challenge to define ourselves in this context. There is an interesting leftwing tech scene. AKASHA Hub Barcelona is connected with different communities and support to co-create communities, one of their partners is Barcelona Free Software (a big and engaged community in Catalonia/Spain), that reforce the conections to new ppl.
https://akasha.barcelona/en/
https://permacomputing.barcelona/
https://wiki.permacomputing.barcelona/
<its hard to understand the bcn hub sorry>
BORF!🐕
Cristina: some of us gathering around pmc , something sparks, personally still at the threshold of it all, but super interested in getting hands dirty. Less to do with the city, but more about meeting at various events and spaces to hang out and discuss. Passing the mike to someone in Signal group longer.... ---->
Sen: it was interesing to have varia as a space because Varia existed much longer than permacomputing. There was already a big basis to build upon. Ppl invovled in Varia could join. Without the space the hub wouldn't have been started.
How does it relate to what you do personally? To what you do?
Gives me something physical to hold and hold myself to. Otherwise it is too intangible.
Anna: we have 6 minutes left for this session. Any questions you want to ask or practical questions on how to join?
Luke: we were talking about various fads and hypes online, solar punk was one of them. Very interesting and I often hear about such things, get excited about it and then forget about it. I never connect to such things outside the digital. How do you deal with tech hype waves? Do you think about this?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solarpunk_Flag_Vectorized_Version.svg
Someone (berlin hub? from Boston) has an (unrelated) question: how do you go from zero to one, make space for ppl to become aware of pmc practices and see how to apply it to their lives?
Similar question from the Hague.
Bcn: create a space to take part and having a space. Having a space to meet and do things. Looking for other ppl with similar interests. Building a network between ppl doing similar things under different names.
Being open to ppl joining. (no only technical- open to ppl from permaculture/sustainable/ecologies/culture)
in the beginning bcn started with 1 meeting per month, but after decided to create workgroups ( loRa / tilde / culture-ethics / social media fediverse / queer tech / book club) from may 2026 started to meet 1 time per week.
London mentions (in chat) that having regular weekly sessions was crucial.
Berlin mentions: here is a nice web site with some tips and stories about starting a new permacomputing group: https://brewing.permacomputing.net/
London is taking the mic: weekly meetups are crucial. When it is a regular thing, makes it easier to add the meeting into their schedules. No matter what, you know it is happening. It minimizes the impact of missing sessions, because not everyone can attend every time. You can easily catch up and build up friendships and connections. Even if nobody shows up, that is fine, freedom of knowing its weekly, suddenly you have an arrival.
People just started trickling in. Now its about 20 ppl showing each week, not always same ppl but still regular good atttendance.
That's a wrap for the first session!
From the chat: Untrusem: i started nodus tollens, an experiment to introduce permacomputing to indian people https://nodus-tollens.codeberg.page
I also gave a small talk on permacomputing at minidebconf, I introduced nodus-tollens at that very conferenece.
The talk slides are here:- https://codeberg.org/untrusem/talks
Next session: theory versus everyday permacomputing with Ana (London) moderating and Ireland and Lutruwita.
How do you balance the theoretical/speculative/future focussed with the everyday, practical aspect of permacomputing. Follow up: how do you keep the utopian realistic? How do you balance accesibliity with niche and technically advanced topics.
Tasmania/Lutruwita: Bill Mollison's daughter says she applauds the initiative. You have to go through a period of chaos. If you apply his 10 principles to the way you live life, to permacoputing, to a garden. IT is very futuristic. She feels her dad would applaud this. It is heartwarming, this community building. This is what he did. He travelled the world 26 times. Watching the London ppl, the Barcelona group, this is what it is about. You are on the money.
How about the theory verus practical, asks Nancy.
I am an ancient. I was in the original courses etc. In terms of seedbanking, I don't know how this works for pmc. You can do the same. The favorite goal of her father was the xxx award, opposite of nobel peace price, taking care of Gaia.
Barcelona in october will be organzing permacomuting workshops and talks in MozFest 2026 (mozilla festival )
With regards to theory versus practice, what are some of those tensions and frictions? Can you share some anecdotes?
Frances: where I to bring my dad out of the grave, he would stay up all night writing, this is what has to happen now. You guys are spearheading the future. Chaostheory has to happen. A natural evolution. It happens in the forest, jungle. You only learn real permaculture from observation. In courses, he lets you do nothing, he throws you into a forest and asks you what you saw. You are in chaos theory. Chaos theory is nature. Loking at the small marks on trees.
What you are doing is beautiful. Everyone involved has a valid input. Look and observe the others. Everything is valuable. Ferment. When I learned of what Nancy came up with (Nancy: it is not just me) I just got the name. I happend to know how you do this shit and you are doing it well. I like direction, I want to have (not too much adds Nancy), you will come to this in the next months, each has their own input and value. You need some governance and direction (Nancy: we are doing it).
Anna: how did he balance writing and his work in the garden?
Frances: easy. He told me once. She distriuted the book worldwide. She had to find a book with pages missing, etc. it had to be used. Best book to learn from is permaculture II. This one is for intelectuals. It's for you guys. He had 10 principles, you have principles.
Frances is permacomputing we are working on integration says Nancy. Just keep going says Frances.
Anna asks Colm the same question(s).
Colm (Ireland): struggling a bit to get things off the ground. Not easy to find a group of techno-critical folk. And then a subset of those (is how I see myself). Done some workshops and research. Using the writing of people here today. Balance between practice and theory has been tricky. Very helpful to have a theory. Context for balancing the 2 matters. In Ireland the contex is insane. Absolutely toxic and destructive and wild. Situation has gone so far, encouraging business of computing. I need the thoery of pmc to bring ppl back to diametriacally ooposed viewpoint.
Pmc gives one of the most polar opposite to what is going on. The theory is like a gateway. Bringing the context and speaking about it with a political sensitivity. Bringing practice without theory can feel empty. Climate justice perspective, social context. That way they can relate to one another, social and practical.
Currently writing about research. Workshops brought up disagreements. Valuable in itself. Theory as transitional object.
Linz do you have anything to add to this?
Linz : we have a researcher coming to pmc meetup in Vienna (every 3 months in Vienna not Linz!). We are next to an artist run datacenter right now. Davide: servus is running this.
Someone else in call, Michal from Prague. Different layers. On one side we like to address practices that fall under umbrella of pmc without even using the name itself. Then there is trying to figure out how to apply it on an infrastructure. Looking more towards the industry. 2000 users on servus servers. Small scale but with this big amount of ppl. This is where fusion of theory and practice drifts apart. Michal? trying to find a space to diminish the infra, simplify, and not rely on clouds or things resembling Big Tech.
At the meetup we spoke for an hour about what we are doing. We concluded, it is more cultural than specifically technical. Creating a different understanding/imagination of how things can go and feel. Scifi starts as a blueprint for dystopia, pmc can put things on the table and some reality can emerge even though we don't know yet what it is.
Anna: pmc is so practice based, the theory happens perhaps after?
Michal: (in the woods!@!! https://lab.node9.org/) one of the things that makes it idealistic. If you make it real for several 1000 ppl and you are urban based, it is different setting. You can rethink, on industrial scale things are changing, we have to actively use these new possibilities.
Linz/Davide; discuss with local IT companies that are interested in digital sovereignty. Trying to open this up through loose conversations. Making links with actors in tech space in the region. Work less isolated. Make it more permeable with other local companies. Weird space, we are not commercial. Intersting direction .Maybe change them, or us. To not be isolated as computational entity. This could be one of the directions.
Keynote in Vienna, at festival on alternative tech infra, after festival there was a survey that required a MS login... What is the way out here? I wanted to offer then something else actionable. Proposing alternative.
20 minute break! 13:25 CEST we are back.
13:15-13:45 - Break (~fermentation~ by Brendan)
13:45-14:15 - Show us Your Latest Perma Experiment
14:15 - ... - Live Italo-Disco DJ Crunk (Open End)
Brendan: next session is about sharing what you are working on. Got a bunch of different questions. Michal, a lot of work in pmc is about interactions between humans and computers. Ppl are working on interfaces. Maybe you want to introduce some experiments?
Michal: cannot hear you well. Experiments with interfacing with more than human entities. I can show you this... (shows on camera the greenhouse in the forest of Czechia). One thing I am interfacing is microphones which are streaming the sound from around the lab. (shows the server, which is under the floor), runs software analysing the birds. There is research on how to sort, count and classify animals. If I would do it systematically I could report that some species are dissappearing. Ten years ago there were a lot of butterflies here and firebugs. They aren't around much anymore. It is dying out here.
There is another experiment. Connecting with plants with a musical device connecting directly to signals from plants. i want to continue this. Basically we are talking about places to meet. This is a place to meet other species. Inhabitation of nature with our technologies without damaging it. This is their space.
Brendan: noticed prices of RAMs CPU etc. going up. Wondering if you see this as soemthing that could be an interesting opportunity to do permacomputing experiments?
Are you thinking about ways that pmc can be a pragmatic way to deal with this?
London: yeah, we have been thinking about this. Being able to source material is tricky. With friends in IT it is easier to source components. Trying to do more with less, with smaller lighter systems.
[Link from chat: https://signal.group/#CjQKIMKw4DYDVzCarDudNNEqfY4fzCI82NYq6dGICq5JYtKFEhBWjKMflH3UvTieOii9mUdl is the main London Permacomputing Signal channel (108 members), and https://signal.group/#CjQKIKh1pMjhxcLKKk6i6y7tn7uaX5aUSsPyQr4NiHRy97DBEhDMIjlU8EnYIkWSDeTra3vB to join the more chatty Signal channel (81 members) of the London group]
Keeping old equipment running, figuring out what you can run on them. Quite a few distributed projects in the group. Chaline is running postmarketOS (https://postmarketos.org/) on old phones. Worked on a calendar system. We have a calendar for people to use globally at https://calendar.permacomputing.net/. We try to keep it as low resource as possible.
Making do with resource constraints. Try any linux distro on a 10 year old laptop and it's fine.
We are not saying you have to go back to punchcards. There are modern systems that didn't need any of the new developments. We are happy to continue those. We can do away with most /not suing a lot of the extra things of modern OSs we do not need for everyday tasks.
[a bit hard to hear]
yes :)
Cheapre hardware...
2000 dot com bust. There was this massive expenditure. Massive machines. ONce there was the bust, you could get fancy laptops and machines second hand cheaply.
Things that are gatekept now will flood the 2nd hand market soon™.
There are a lot of computers and devices that you wouldn't necessaritly expect. Like smart tvs etc. are running a linux kernel. Some of them are hard to get into, but there is more than desktop computers you can use. Scavenging for used tech can deliver.
If we're thinking about the conomics of supply we need to be prepare for...
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Ola from the Chat: how do you convey to ppls that you "don't need that much" ? Having a working example is useful, so is becoming familar with a new way of doing computing and beng able to communicate that in simple ways to show people that alternatives are possible, and can solve issues in their own lives.
Untrusem: I have also pondered about this exact questions, As when I try to tell people that "less is more", they are like "but I already have abundant resources, my 64gb machine is able to handle everything, I won't be able to do that with a 4gb or even 8gb ram machine!!." So I also think that what would be an example I could show them??
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Leeeeeeeee from chat: Just gonna add from Permacomputing NYC here in the chat. We meet at a DIY/radical space in Brooklyn that has a community food kitchen, DIY gym, letter writing to prisoners/solidarity, queer meetups, and other events. We meet on Tuesday nights prior to the "Circuit Hacking Night" meetups, so we have a cool informal system that things start with our meetings (generally about 2 1/2 hours long) then roll into soldering/hacking projects. There's also a DIY hackerspace in the basement there. Past meetings have included talks, hands-on workshops, discussions, etc. In terms of organizing, I'm the main organizer at the moment. I use OCCUPY style stack-process (an anarchist meeting facilitation approach) when we have discussions since we have such a huge group.
Berlin: a lot of potential. Using spaces used by other groups. Overlaps, commonalities. Can you tell me about some projects that bridging tradition between computing and other practices, like gardening, ...?
Ana from London: Lee^ same here! The space that we meet at is a community arts centre which hosts loads of different workshops. This brings in really fun and interesting groups of people that have roots in multidisciplinary practices and involved in activist spaces etcs. The also have an allotment that we have worked with before to do a workshop on making energy from mud/compost and storing it on batteries.. that's brought in some permaculture folk too and we'd like to expand on that!
There are only 2 ppl who can speak for Berlin ... I hav elittle experience of gardening. The meetup scene is faltering in the last 10 years.
In Berlin there are a lot of small gardening projects.
There are bigger ones but they are hard to access. Berlin is actually quite nice to have access to a garden, to green spaces. They are called colony. Non-commercial.
Probably not easy to acces, there are a lot of waiting lists, but they are everywhere.
Could you talk a bit about something like what kai is doing?
What Joel was talking about is conservative allotment system, old reactioinary ppl, then there are some communal hipster gardens. Brendan is talking about projects
What Brendan is talking about is how to set up projects that set up ecologically minded ... ? cluster associations. Sometimes this springs from garden people. A website where ppl could put up points for Urban foraging, community has been very active
The project has never had more users. An urban interest thing.
People in cities are interested in spots to garden and to communicate about foraging. Something we are working on is people running gardens, such as the Tempelhoferfeld airport, organising community inclusive gardens.
Pretty wide range of ppl wanting to know about gardening and earnest about inclusion and ecological projects.
The whole permaculture is a good example here. Middle class. How to include different classes?
How can you make it accessible and cheap for all classes.
Brendan: There are a lot of pmc projects out there, they are using techniques/software/hardware that is not exotic, new but has been around for a while (as a compliment :) They are novel, in how they are dealing with social relations. That is exciting about these projects. Maintenance, distribution and organising are part of them.
London, Prague or Berlin, are there practices you can think of where people are experimenting with different forms of social relations?
Chaline/London:
Breaking up with extractive relations has been on the table a lot. Thinking about refusal and finding new ways of relating to technology. Sharing knowledge. Beautiful paralels between for example queer joy that can inform new ways of relating to tech.
Michal/forest/Prague:
Trying to connect with scientific directions. Likeminded scientists. Bird researchers using tiny ESP32 recorders in forrest, they can make a much better image of what is happening to birds with this tech,
Otherwise other scientists are not very positive about lowtech. More industrial cloud.
In the open science cloud, is build in industry way, closed [???] Social connection, cooperative appraoch in country side. You need to change the country side to be better, regenerative tending to our nature.
There are people who own land plots, sometimes they go into coops.
I was in a residency in Finland, they are managing 50.000 hectares of biotopes which they try to protect and set nature ecosystem objectives, what to protect, how to do it. Bring traditional use of nature like fishing. Use WhatsApp, Instagram to be successful in organising. Sometimes they think of smth elese, but they are a fraction of those scientists, who understand the tech in a different way and know how it depends on data centers and political influence.
We should connect to these factions that think similarly to permacomputing.
London: how to build and maintain systems and get away from big tech. Setting up our own hosted servers. We want to make a colalborative, local cloud computing project.
Building our own ...?
We can talk abouyt what we want tech to look like, big tech is socially damaging
If we are not prepared to use these services, we'll have to do it ourselves.
Collaborate together on projects to build our own infra.
It would be a community owned project, share the load, knowledge is shared
we're not asking everyoe to become a sysadmin overnight but wouldn't it be great if we can have our own infra?
We meet weekly, there's a lot of us. We experiment with how to run the sessions.
We started with show and tells, then moved to more formal workshops, then we introduced tech crits using the format of art crits. Now new stage, already working on projects together, doing break out sessions to work on them, groups split off in smaller groups to discuss projects. Experiment with formats of togetherness and Experimenting with collectivity, and being together. Being in a position where we are already doing it.
Chaline and others are working on setting up ??? an email server!
Nick is setting up a modern version of IRC and XMPP [[nick here: maybe a bridge to some pre-existing xmpp in the future, but hoping IRCv3 alone will be enough]]
others based in Canada, working with solar power
Starting reusing batteries out of disposable vapes which are thrown in the trash. Looking for ways to extract the batteries safely
Working on ways to extract batteries safely.
People come to the sessions, get inspired, go away and do their own projects.
Brendan: will pass the mic to Ola. We are done today for the formal things. We have an exciting low key exclusive DJ set from DJ crunk, dropping Italo hits woop woop
Ola: we'll safe some questions for tomorrow. If you have some questions, you can ask them now we are not so strict on time. The floor is open!
Leeeeeeeee 14:17
would like to hear from any group, but maybe currently london, - how do you build infrastructure for your local group? for example, where are your participants sharing their projects together?
currently the nyc group only has a website and an email listserve, but we are outgrowing this and need more spaces for collaborative projects. we did a little experiment to set up a phone server but didn't quite succeed yet :0
[Permcomputing calendar here: https://calendar.permacomputing.net/]
London asks a question but we cannot hear
Availability of hardware.if their devidce is broken, they don't want a knew phone.
People don't want new devices, they want to prolong life of old one.
When it comes to mobile phone market, it's a shitshow.... If you want to get into OS's with other flavors... [cannot hear]
From chat: untrusem is turning phone with dead screen into server. (hopefully it works, the charging port is cooked, so I can't use adb and stuff, so need to figure that out too)
Question from London: how often to meet? Different frequencies? :) and why?
Ola: bcn is meeting weekly if I remember correctly. Is that correct?
Vienna: very relaxed schedule: every 3 months, consistently. We are all very busy so this is all we can do. sometimes it is better to do less and be consistent than to do more and burn out. A bunch of ppl interested, but how do you reach them. We communicate far in advance, so that people can prepare to join.
India: Currently I have managed to get 3 people into nodus tollens, so we don't actually have a schedule but we have a permacomputing meetup whenever we go to the same events and conferences.
From chat: NYC meets once a month, taking a break for the summer
Sen/Rotterdam: here we haven't found a schedule yet. We would like to meet periodically. A festival was coming up. It would be nice to do it once a month here. We will see.
Ana from London: meeting every monday is definitely chaos theory lol hahaha
Tim/bcn: we meet once a week. We are not always there. We started trying to meet once a month. One of the things I found, ppl started taking minutes, they became meetings. (feeling seen/busted) less risk to missing one with higher frequency.
Ola: there is a spectrum, you don't want to burn out but regularity helps as well. We are working in longer stretches of time when there is an event. It was a bit tricky to find a consistent program or activities. I am jealous that you have such a cosy hub to hang out at. Kudos for that! Sen you went to bcn and met the group! Maybe we can do more exchanges, hosting each other :)
We are moving to the music oh NNO waiiiiiittttt one last thing from Berlin about the monthly meetups
d1 14:21
we do a lot of self hosting here in rdam, we wrote some guides once upon a time also https://homebrewserver.club/category/fundamentals.html
Leeeeeeeee 14:26
i think it would be interesting to see a list of or hear what kinds of activities have been most fruitful at the various meetups. doesn't need to be answered right now.
untrusem__ 14:26
btw badri ( my friend ) has been daily driving a KaiOS phone for years
he even made a xmpp client for it
https://convo.fsci.in
Berlin: Hard to set a weekly time. hard to find a place. The organisers meet beforehand to discuss. What helped was planning a year ahead. Writing it in a calendar and starting to check for places. it takes away a lot of stress. Gives you a future perspective and useful for others to know when and where to meet up.
London: address A'dam to R'dam travel conundrum. London travel is comparable to A'damto R'dam travel. I cannot do it every week but it helps that it is every week so I can join at least every other week for example. This keeps the meetings relatively chill.
It is all chill.
By having regular meetings you start building up. harder to do that once a month, especially if people come with expectations. If it's mostly a social hangout it becomes more of a friendship group, you get to hang out with friends, not just a project based group.
We're very non-hierarchical, that fits our style. Nobody is taking minutes. [[nick here: my point was that people will report back from what happened, more like journalists than secretaries!]] <3
[why the minutes hatred lol]
[we took minutes of their non-minutes]
[we totally did]
DJ CRRUUUUUUUNKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOT OWOOOOOOOOOOOOT (auto captioning cannot do this lol) [[ (MUSIC) (MUSIC) ]]
Lots of waving
HANDS UP!!!!
CRUNK REVEAL!
temperature reveal (its soooooo hot here)
London post-videoconference chat: we found it interesting that some folks find frequent meetings liberating, and some found them stressful. For London it can feel more like "Monday nights this table at the pub is where the permacomputadores hang out" while it seems other groups feel pressure to be more organised.
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DAY II program
Intro/warm-up 12:00 - 12:15
Low-Tech / High-Life (Aesthetics, etc.) 12:15 - 12:45
Governance model (Artemis, Luke, Aymeric) 12:45 - 13:45
Break (~gardening~) 13:45 - 14:15
Nursery Garden (What is Next?) 14:15 - 14:45
Outro (Open End) 14:45 - ...
Vienna is outside under a green roof, Anna A. is in a garden, London is in a big space that looks like a theatre and Berlin is... in a space :) rosa5?, Rotterdam is in Varia
Sound is muted... can't hear anything
day 2 is over in https://taxus.lurk.org/following_the_sun
Nancy performed a beautiful ritual in the terminal to start the day
Discussion on Low tech / high life section between berlin, barcelona and vienna
d1 slides about infra / "governance" aspirations
https://vvvvvvaria.org/~decentral1se/SLIDES-YEEHAW.odp 🤠